In the late 1940's and 1950's, Senator Joseph McCarthy played a very serious game that brought grief and hardship to many people. For a while, his wild accusations of communist infiltration made him the center of attention in Washington. But demagogues lose their power once enough victims refuse to play by the bully's rules. Perhaps eventually, the current president of the U.S. will learn that lesson. On this episode of RADIO with a VIEW, Marc Stern and Dave Goodman speak with author LARRY TYE, who gained exclusive access to McCarthy's personal files and explains the politician like no one has before. Plus music by Emily Elbert "True Power," Joe Glazer & Bill Friedland "Joe McCarthy's Band," and Marianne Faithful "They Come at Night." [In a fascinating article for Smithsonian Magazine, Larry Tye describes how McCarthy defended Nazi soldiers accused of one of the worst war-time massacres in US history: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/senator-mccarthys-nazi-problem-180975174/]